What good are contracts?

[Garawa]

So Parrett and Rees have been told they won't feature for the new manager and have refused to take offers from "another league club and a non-league club". I would imagine these were a League 2 club for Parrett and a non-league club for Rees. I can't imagine either club would pay a fee for them and I would expect this would result in a pay cut. If so, they are being cast out for refusing to take a pay cut having worked out their house-hold budgets based on an agreed wage for 2 years. If I am right, then the only winner here would be the receiving club and us, who would get 2 players off the wage bill for free. The players suddenly find themselves with less money.

Both were offered 2 year deals and have chosen to honour their contracts which seems to have annoyed some fans and the manager. The question is, what point is a contract if we simply expect them to rip it up at our request? Also, if a player refused to play because he wanted a better deal elsewhere he would (rightly) get slated. The best way forward I think would have been a season-long loan where we pay half their wages. They get to promote themselves, keep their wages in full and we save a chunk of salary. As it is, both look likely to descend into obscurity for a year whilst we pay full wages for players who the manager says he won't use.

It's all a bit unsavoury.

[Garawa]

After that, Parrett signs for Stevenage so I wonder what the scenario with that is as I doubt Stevenage are paying his League 1 wage (or are we paying wages that are in the League 2 bracket in which case, it was a wonder he came to us at all).

[gillsfan1066]

Even my hero, the man I was going to pay big time to manage Gillingham FC when I bought it as soon as I win 300 million bucks on the Lottery has told Sheffield Utd that all the bull corn he said at his press conference when he was offered the managers job and a contract was just that BULL CORN. This guy has managed I think I heard 10 teams and never stayed at one for two years. Whats the betting on who the Next Manager is going to be when Bruce gets fired in January 2020 ?

[gillsfan1066]

One of the things that happens when you change managers is that the guys the previous manager thought were God's gift to the footballing world are Dodo's in the eyes of the new manager.
Average pay for a player in the First Division is around 70,000 pounds a year, not bad considering if your career last 10 years you have made enough to buy that paper shop on the corner of Gillingham Road and Gordon Road .

[sotongill]

After that, Parrett signs for Stevenage so I wonder what the scenario with that is as I doubt Stevenage are paying his League 1 wage (or are we paying wages that are in the League 2 bracket in which case, it was a wonder he came to us at all).

His contract was mutually terminated .

Which means that we've agreed to pay something probably less than what we would have had he stayed , but enough to cover the shortfall in wages offered by Stevenage .

[sotongill]

... to buy that paper shop on the corner of Gillingham Road and Gordon Road .

Don't ever remember one being on the corner , but think there was one in the small parade of shops between Gordon Road and Priestfield Road . There are houses there now .

[gillsfan1066]

Yeah there was one there, owned by Simpson ,Yeo, Gibbs, Pulley, one of the greats from the 60's. Looking at Google maps I think it is now a Fish and Chip Shop, if not it's a bit further down the road and is Tayyba Hair and Beauty, which I think might be the store I am talking about.
How the hell do you guys drive anywhere,every street is so narrow and with parking on one side, what did you guys do shrink the streets after I left, lol?

[bunburygills]

This post 100% confirms what I was saying in the previous discussion about loyalty. One player's contract is up and he moves on to greener pastures and is condemned by some, whilst other players still on contracts are told they're not wanted anymore. Loyalty? That's why I would never condemn the likes of Gareth Bale sitting tight on huge wages instead of taking a huge pay cut just to justify the whims of a manager who doesn't fancy him anymore.

[sotongill]

Yeah there was one there, owned by Simpson ,Yeo, Gibbs, Pulley, one of the greats from the 60's. Looking at Google maps I think it is now a Fish and Chip Shop, if not it's a bit further down the road and is Tayyba Hair and Beauty, which I think might be the store I am talking about.
How the hell do you guys drive anywhere,every street is so narrow and with parking on one side, what did you guys do shrink the streets after I left, lol?

Fish and chip shop was there in the sixties mate . I believe that Yeo owned the shop just below the level crossing , as Gillingham Road becomes Ingram Road . Think that would have been his second shop , as he had one originally on the corner of Roseberry Road , at the point that Burnt Oak Terrace becomes Parr Avenue . Simpson had a shop up Barnsole Road , either on the corner of Glanville Road or Coulman Street . Tayyba Hair and Beauty is on the corner of Priestfield Road - think there used to be a barbers shop there in the sixties .

Most of the roads in that area are one way these days - i'm also always amazed when i go back to Gillingham about how narrow the streets are

[Garawa]

After that, Parrett signs for Stevenage so I wonder what the scenario with that is as I doubt Stevenage are paying his League 1 wage (or are we paying wages that are in the League 2 bracket in which case, it was a wonder he came to us at all).

His contract was mutually terminated .

Which means that we've agreed to pay something probably less than what we would have had he stayed , but enough to cover the shortfall in wages offered by Stevenage .

Ahh. I thought there must be some sort of compensation. I wonder good then are season loans unless that involves paying full wages by the receiving club (although we paid half of JET's) as that would make being loaned someone else's player more expensive then making him yours. Why this needs to be so confusing, ha ha. Thanks Soton.

[gillsfan1066]

SSSOOOOTTTYYY YOUR A JEANI ASS, haha, I have spend sleepless nights trying to figure this out ,YES it was a block north of the CHOO CHOO TRAIN TRACKS, my Grandmother used to take me to when I was like 4 or 5 to stand over the railway tracks when a steam train came roaring up or down the line , smoke billowing everywhere ,I would stand in wonder and fear and watch the great dragon getting closer and closer until the whistle blew to warn the pedestrians and cars crossing at the crossing gates then we would be covered in steam and smoke, then came the joy of finding my Grandmother still there to take me to the store.
Now the next problem I have is why were we there, we lived down near Gillingham Pier, so why were we all the way up at what was it called Livingstone Circus ?? We got our bread from Coopers on Pier Road, out meat from some butcher along Pier Road on I think the corner of Milner Rd, and Charlies the grocers was just along on the next corner towards Autoyachts the Fiat Dealers , so what was at Livingstone Circus we needed to walk all that way for ??

[bunburygills]

Did we have Fiat's in those days? Japanese cars were only just starting. Volkswagen and the odd Citroen were about the only foreign cars I can remember. I went to Africa for 2 years in 1965 and saw all these weird and wonderful cars I'd never seen before. Mind you, being in the Air Force, my first three cars in England were all left hand drive Opel's which servicemen had brought back from Germany. I remember just passing my test and buying an old Opel Kapitan and straight away driving it down from Lincoln, straight through the middle of London to Chatham. The thought now would scare me to pieces. Also, one of the things that struck me when I came over about 5 years ago was the tiny streets around Lower Gillingham.

[sotongill]

Now the next problem I have is why were we there, we lived down near Gillingham Pier, so why were we all the way up at what was it called Livingstone Circus ?? We got our bread from Coopers on Pier Road, out meat from some butcher along Pier Road on I think the corner of Milner Rd, and Charlies the grocers was just along on the next corner towards Autoyachts the Fiat Dealers , so what was at Livingstone Circus we needed to walk all that way for ??

If memory serves me correctly 1066 , you're four years older than me , so i'm guessing that you are talking '58 or '59 . The shop was run by Plough and Taylor at the time , who sold it to the Blundells in the early seventies . Yeo bought it in the late seventies . My father used to work there on a Sunday morning in the late sixties and early seventies . I can only assume that the trip was to watch the trains from the footbridge , as I can't think of anything special at Livingstone Circus in the sixties - far less so now .

[sotongill]

Did we have Fiat's in those days? Japanese cars were only just starting. Volkswagen and the odd Citroen were about the only foreign cars I can remember. I went to Africa for 2 years in 1965 and saw all these weird and wonderful cars I'd never seen before. Mind you, being in the Air Force, my first three cars in England were all left hand drive Opel's which servicemen had brought back from Germany. I remember just passing my test and buying an old Opel Kapitan and straight away driving it down from Lincoln, straight through the middle of London to Chatham. The thought now would scare me to pieces. Also, one of the things that struck me when I came over about 5 years ago was the tiny streets around Lower Gillingham.

No idea when a car dealership first operated there Bunbury , or indeed what make of car - all I can remember with any certainty about Pier Road in the sixties was the Gas Works next to it , although i'm sure that I made the journey from Arden Street school to the pool at the Strand on many occasions . A season ticket for the pool in 1969 was 50p in todays money , and you got priority admission at 4.00 pm when it opened . Happy days

[gillsfan1066]

No it was Auto Yachts or Autoyachts and a Fiat Dealership, it's now a Ford Dealership and was next to the Marina on the west side and gasometer on the east.
I had bought my wife at the time a lovely bright yellow Fiat 124 Sports Coupe and I decided to service it outside in the street. Putting the last plug in the little metal terminal cap came off bounced around the engine and disappeared down it's own plug hole.
I went to the Fiat dealership to ask for advice and they said for two million quid they would tow it in and take the heads off and remove the culprit. I ended up a few weeks later buying a long bendy thing with a claw on one end and a pushy thing to open it on the other, I think it cost like 50 pence and I got the cap on the second attempt
OK thats not entirely true ,I had to buy her a used Chrysler 180 in the mean time , which meant that for several weeks I learned no matter what I liked in my life, Necrophilia was not going to ever be part of it, well after those few weeks anyway.